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[Computer News Online] It's been a long time since we focused on discussing the purchase of computers. Uncle Niu came to have a chat today.
It's been a long time since we focused on discussing the purchase of the machine. Uncle Niu came to have a chat today. The general environment in the first half of this year is like this: both desktop platforms and laptops are seriously lacking in "core", and the new platform RTX 30 series is particularly prominent. This has also created a strange scene: the performance of the game book at the same price is almost the same as that of the desktop computer - because the price increase of the desktop computer is too high, and not only the price increase, but also the price increase depends on rush buying, which... In this context, some of the problems arising from the purchase of the computer are quite interesting. Let's take a look at them next.

Q: Is it cost-effective to buy a notebook 3060?
A: The RTX 3060 game book is quite worth choosing. The fact that several popular models need to make an appointment to snap up is enough to illustrate the situation. For example, the recently launched Lenovo R7000P and R9000P are hard to grab. Uncle Niu briefly analyzes several reasons.

First of all, in terms of performance, the 130W RTX 3060 (currently many models are equipped with the 130W version, which is very common) is quite powerful, with a significant increase compared with the previous generation RTX 2060. More importantly, this generation of mobile RTX 3060 is very close to the desktop platform RTX 3060. You can see the measured data of 3DMark benchmark test below, which is basically at the same level. Of course, the laptop is limited to the platform and power, and it is weaker than the desktop in the actual game.



Secondly, in terms of price, the first launch price of the popular models of the current international first tier brands, such as Lenovo R7000P, is 7499 yuan, while the regular price is 7999 yuan. There is not only an 8-core 16 thread H processor, but also 16GB memory, 512GB SSD, and a FHD 144Hz screen. If you want to be more detailed, you need to include other accessories. At present, the price of the desktop RTX 3060 is about 6000 yuan (5500 yuan for the cheaper one). According to the small lion next door, the price of the RTX 3060 is about 10000 yuan.

From this point of view, the price of RTX 3060 game book around 8000 yuan is indeed a dessert level, which is worth choosing. In particular, the starting price is worth grabbing. However, according to the current situation, it is obvious that many people also see this point, so it is definitely worth buying. But before the price of the desktop 3060 comes down, it may not be easy to buy. Rush to buy, price increase... Eh, these two words seem very familiar.

Q: How to choose the mechanical revolution titanium tantalum PLUS and Lenovo R9000P which are both RTX 3070?
A: First, sort out their respective configuration prices:
R9000P: Ruilong 7 5800H/RTX 3070/16GB/512GB/2K screen/regular price 9999 yuan;
Titanium tantalum PLUS: i7 10870H/RTX 3070/32GB/1TB/2K screen/conventional price 11999 yuan. In addition, the machine has FHD 144Hz screen version, and the conventional price 9999 yuan.

From the price point of view, the Lenovo R9000P is also a 2K screen version, which seems to be cheaper. Even if the phone is too popular, which leads to a price increase, it should be less than 11999 yuan (won't be slapped...). Lenovo R9000P is indeed priced too violently - an international first-line brand, which has hit the price of a new national brand, or even lower. Of course, it's good for our consumers! In addition, it is not ruled out that the price of the titanium tantalum PLUS will be reduced (after all, the first launch of the machine is 9999 yuan). Who can withstand the 9999 yuan 2K screen RTX 3070 from Lenovo.


In the crucial part of the RTX30 series, that is, the power of the graphics card, the two models are both 140W full blood versions, so there is no confusion. The processor Lenovo is the Sharp Dragon 7 5800H, the Titanium Tantalum PLUS is the i7 10870H, and the R7000P has better multi-core performance. But frankly, it can't be felt in daily use, because they are flagship mobile processors with high performance redundancy. In terms of heat dissipation, these two models are the top models in their respective platforms, and there is no problem.


But it seems that the ultimate goal is to "purchase", and the current situation is that a model is out of stock at the first launch (Lenovo R9000P), and the price of a model has increased too much compared with the first launch (Titanium Tantalum PLUS). Which model does Uncle Niu recommend? How do users choose? This is really a bit awkward. We might as well be a waiting party for the time being, and at the same time, we should pay more attention: first, wait for Lenovo R9000P to rush to buy next time, second, wait for the price reduction promotion of the 2K screen version of the first-class titanium tantalum PLUS, and third, see if there are any manufacturers who will disturb the situation. Then it depends on fate.

Q: RTX 3060 Game Book Pricing At the price of 8000 yuan, will laptops not be affected by out of stock?
A: Obviously, notebooks are also seriously affected by the shortage of chips. For example, now It is April now. When will the hardware of the new platform of the Sharp Dragon 5000 series and RTX 30 series be released? ——It was released at the CES 2021 conference in January at the beginning of this year. Three months later, there are not many new platform models. Although there are relatively more RTX 30 series game books, the vast majority of popular models still need to be purchased by appointment, and the supply is insufficient. Now is not the time for the first launch. In addition, only one U-series model with ZEN3 architecture is currently on sale among the 5000 series models of the Ruilong, and the U-series model with ZEN2 architecture can only be launched gradually, with a very slow pace. The supply in the market is far less than the demand, which is enough to show that laptops are also plagued by chip shortages.

 

But now the good news is that as a complete machine product, the notebook has finally maintained its consistent pricing strategy in terms of price, and has not been affected too much - at least for the moment. In the face of this change, there is a situation that the purchase of popular models depends on competition. In other words, the official price did not rise when chips were out of stock, but the supply must be very tight.



Q: What level of exclusive display is centralized display equivalent to?
A: Many new Xiaobai students don't know much about the centralized dominance of laptops. Here we will give a brief introduction to different models of AMD and Intel.

AMD Integrated Display takes the powerful Sharp Dragon 7 4800U (the integrated display performance of the new platform has not improved much) as an example. Its 3DMark FS benchmark graphics card score is 3880, and the FF15 comprehensive score is 1886; The nearest unique model is MX 250, whose 3DMark FS graphics card score is 3670 and FF15 comprehensive score is 1803.


Intel Integrated Display takes i7 1165G7 (with 4266MHz memory) as an example, which is the highest integrated display model in the 11th generation Core processor. In terms of theoretical performance, its 3DMark FS benchmark graphics card scored 5639 and FF15 comprehensive score was 2396; The theoretical test result of 3DMMark even exceeded the MX450, but the actual measurement shows that it is a winner or loser with MX350. That is to say, it is close to the actual combat performance of the MX 350, and there is still room for improvement.


In short, both AMD and Intel have good integrated display performance, which is comparable to MX 250 and MX 350, respectively. It is no problem to meet LOL online game entertainment.
This article is from the 14th issue of Computer Daily in 2021, C. Laptop, published on April 12, 2021
(Website editor: shixi01)


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